"The trouble is that Thorn's not going to just stop; going on the defensive just erodes our advantages over time as he and his learn more. They'll notice that sorcery works here - I did by complete accident - they'll notice if we ever have to go deaf and don't time it carefully, they'll notice if we catch and force forgetting on any of them and then don't maintain perfect control over those captives. Me he can take or leave - did leave, when Yellow made him an offer - but you he will want to keep if possible, kill to protect those of his vassals you caught otherwise. ...Did you get any of their names that you could tell me?"